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E192Aug 16, 2024

Break up Google, Starbucks CEO out, Kamala's price controls, Boeing disaster, Kursk offensive

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Companies
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Going against
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Who weighed in
ChamathJasonSacksFriedberg
3 bullish3 bearish2 mixed2 neutral

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GoogleGOOGL+115.4% over 1yr 10mo
JasonJasonCommentary

Jason sees spinning out YouTube and Waymo as value-unlocking for Google shareholders, but warns that being forced to divest Android would be massively damaging since the Android default search would be auctioned to the highest bidder (potentially Microsoft/Bing).

The easy solution for Google, and I agree with, I think, people who said that here, is to just spin out YouTube and Waymo. Those two are perfect standalone businesses… The most damaging one would be Android. If they force them to sell Andro
SacksSacksCommentarytracking with the call

Sacks argues Google should voluntarily break itself into four companies (Search, Advertising, YouTube, Android), which would unlock conglomerate discount value, strip out bureaucratic inefficiency, and forestall a more harmful government-imposed breakup.

Our workshopping this issue has pretty much convinced me that it should be four companies. Search, advertising, YouTube, and Android, because I think Android could be a standalone business because of the value of the search default.
ChamathChamathCommentarytracking with the call

Chamath believes Google should proactively propose its own breakup terms, arguing that a shareholder-controlled split where the sum of parts exceeds current market cap is the best outcome, while the probability of a forced full breakup remains low (single digits).

You can do it in a way where the sum of the parts will be greater than the value today of Google. So I think that there's a shareholder win. It needs to be offered by Google and then negotiated.
FriedbergFriedbergCommentarytracking with the call

Friedberg argues that a government-forced breakup of Google is anti-success rather than anti-competition, and that a voluntary spin-out of YouTube could unlock meaningful shareholder value via the conglomerate discount, though shared infrastructure complicates clean separation.

I do think that there's a lot of value unlock in YouTube. So if Google were to just generally spin out YouTube, That is probably a business that on its own would attract an investor base that might otherwise not want to get into the conglom
StarbucksSBUX+11.8% over 1yr 10mo
SacksSacksCommentarytracking against the call

Sacks argues macroeconomic inflation has re-rated Starbucks from an affordable treat to a luxury good that cash-strapped consumers are cutting, a structural headwind that a new CEO cannot easily fix.

More and more consumers are just saying that this is a luxury good. I'm looking to cut costs…a luxury cup of coffee just seems like a really easy place to cut. So I think that's a huge part of this, and I don't know how Brian Niccol's
ChamathChamathCommentarytracking against the call

Chamath argues Starbucks lacks true premium-brand pricing power, has a serious long-term threat from its high-sugar product mix as consumers shift away from sugar and toward GLP-1s, and management failed to reset analyst forecasts early enough to give itself room to recover.

Starbucks doesn't have that power. So they charge like a premium product, but they're not a premium brand that has pricing power…What will consumers do as more consumers get on GLP-1s? What will they do as more people think about the fact
FriedbergFriedbergCommentary

Friedberg sees Starbucks as a structurally challenged business with declining operating margins, rising costs, and a sugar-heavy menu facing headwinds, but believes incoming CEO Brian Niccol's cost-cutting and menu-simplification track record could improve profitability.

Brian Niccol has an incredible reputation… He is notorious for being a cost cutter, for being an efficiency driver, for being a productivity hound… And Brian Nichols is probably the right guy, which is why you're seeing the stock kind of ra
SpaceXSPCX-9.7% over 1yr 10mo
ChamathChamathCommentary

Chamath contrasts SpaceX's reliable, on-time Crew Dragon program favorably against Boeing's Starliner disaster, noting SpaceX delivered a safer and cheaper solution — 40% cheaper — through competitive market dynamics rather than government mandates.

The more capable solution was 40% cheaper than the one that they thought was going to work. And the one that was 40% cheaper was also on time and the other one was— and reliable. And this other one, 7, 8, 9, 10 years delayed.
BoeingBA+23.5% over 1yr 10mo
ChamathChamathCommentarytracking against the call

Chamath argues Boeing's repeated Starliner failures stem from a structural cultural problem — incentives aligned to EPS growth rather than engineering safety — that has persisted across leadership, making the business fundamentally broken across its three complex divisions.

show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome. If the incentive is safety and world-class engineering, that's what you'll get. But if the incentive is earnings per share growth, then that's what you'll also get.
ChipotleCMG-32.8% over 1yr 10mo
FriedbergFriedbergCommentary

Friedberg credits Brian Niccol with transforming Chipotle into a highly profitable, growing business through operational discipline and menu focus, suggesting his track record justifies optimism about his Starbucks tenure.

Nikhil came in and made Chipotle an incredibly profitable growing business. And the expectation is he'll come in and do the same here, that maybe over the years Starbucks' success has bred laziness.