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E192Aug 16, 2024

Break up Google, Starbucks CEO out, Kamala's price controls, Boeing disaster, Kursk offensive

Takes
11
Companies
6
Right so far
3
Wrong so far
3

Directional takes judged by each stock's move since this episode aired.

GoogleGOOGL+116.0% since this episode
JasonJasonMixed

Jason argues spinning out YouTube and Waymo would unlock massive shareholder value, but a forced Android divestiture would be highly damaging to Google as the search default could be auctioned to competitors like Microsoft.

YouTube and Waymo, those should be like a $400 billion company, a $50 billion company...The most damaging one would be Android. If they force them to sell Android, that is going to be massively damaging.
SacksSacksBullish✓ right so far

Sacks argues Google should proactively break itself into Search, Advertising, YouTube, and Android, which would unlock conglomerate discount value and force leaner, more efficient operations—both accruing to shareholder benefit.

if you break up the company into 3 or 4 smaller companies, right, there's just way less room for people to hide. And I think that they could all be leaner, more efficient operations, and that would accrue to the benefit of shareholders.
ChamathChamathMixed

Chamath believes a Google-initiated breakup could create a shareholder win where the sum of parts exceeds the current conglomerate value, but considers a full government-forced breakup unlikely and still only a single-digit probability.

You can do it in a way where the sum of the parts will be greater than the value today of Google. So I think that there's a shareholder win. It needs to be offered by Google and then negotiated.
FriedbergFriedbergMixed

Friedberg sees a potential market-cap unlock from spinning out YouTube and other segments due to conglomerate discount, but warns that the DOJ's anti-success framing and the complexity of shared infrastructure make a forced breakup risky.

there's always this notion of what's called a conglomerate discount. When you put a lot of different businesses together, the businesses in aggregate get valued less than the individual parts would...each one of these kind of like
StarbucksSBUX+7.9% since this episode
SacksSacksBearish✗ wrong so far

Sacks is skeptical Niccol can fix Starbucks because the core headwind is macroeconomic—persistent inflation has made Starbucks feel like a luxury cut that consumers increasingly forego.

I think more and more consumers are just saying that this is a luxury good. I'm looking to cut costs...a luxury cup of coffee just seems like a really easy place to cut. So I think that's a huge part of this, and I don't know how Brian
ChamathChamathBearish✗ wrong so far

Chamath is bearish on Starbucks long-term because it lacks premium brand pricing power and faces a structural headwind as consumers move away from high-sugar products, though he credits Niccol with the ability to stabilize near-term operations.

Starbucks doesn't have that power. So they charge like a premium product, but they're not a premium brand that has pricing power...What will consumers do as more consumers get on GLP-1s?...the company has to embrace where the world is
FriedbergFriedbergMixed

Friedberg sees Brian Niccol as the right operator to cut costs and simplify the menu at Starbucks, but notes the company's margins have been structurally declining due to labor/input cost inflation and consumer spending limits.

Brian Niccol has an incredible reputation...He is notorious for being a cost cutter, for being an efficiency driver, for being a productivity hound...Brian Nichols is probably the right guy, which is why you're seeing the stock kind of
ChamathChamathBullish

Chamath implicitly endorses SpaceX as the superior space contractor, noting it delivered a reliable, on-time solution at 40% lower cost than Boeing's Starliner, validating the competitive free-market model.

the more capable solution was 40% cheaper than the one that they thought was going to work. And the one that was 40% cheaper was also on time and the other one was— and reliable. And this other one, 7, 8, 9, 10 years delayed.
BoeingBA+23.1% since this episode
ChamathChamathBearish✗ wrong so far

Chamath is deeply bearish on Boeing, arguing that incentive structures focused on EPS rather than safety and engineering excellence have created deep structural problems across all three of its major business divisions.

if the incentive is safety and world-class engineering, that's what you'll get. But if the incentive is earnings per share growth, then that's what you'll also get. And Boeing was a darling of the stock market for a very long time. And now
ChipotleCMG-40.5% since this episode
FriedbergFriedbergBearish✓ right so far

Friedberg notes Chipotle will lose its star operator Brian Niccol to Starbucks, and their prior automation partnership fell apart when Niccol took over—suggesting the CEO departure is a meaningful operational risk for Chipotle.

The Chipotle CEO got fired. We were going to roll out automation with Chipotle and he got fired and Nickel came in and our deal blew up. It killed the deal.
WalmartWMT+64.1% since this episode
FriedbergFriedbergBullish✓ right so far

Friedberg is bullish on Walmart as a beneficiary of consumer trade-down, citing its 7% stock gain on the day as proof that companies offering value win when consumers are price-sensitive.

look at Walmart stocks up 7% today because they offer lower priced solutions to consumers. And Dollar General and Dollar Tree are rallying as well. When the market competes, consumers benefit, and there are companies that will win.