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Global coffeehouse chain selling coffee, beverages, and food through company-operated and licensed stores.Yahoo Finance ↗starbucks.com

5 takes · first discussed Aug 16, 2024 · last Oct 25, 2024

Where they land
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Who's weighed in
FriedbergChamathSacks
Takes
5
First discussed
Aug 16, 2024

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0%$111.75$78.463 comments near Aug 16, 20242 comments near Oct 25, 2024+11.8%Aug 16, 2024Jul 10, 2026
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The discussion

The hosts are broadly bearish on Starbucks, with the main points of agreement being that the business faces serious structural headwinds: Sacks points to inflation re-rating Starbucks as a luxury good that price-sensitive consumers are cutting, Chamath emphasizes the threat from GLP-1 drug adoption reducing demand for its high-sugar, high-ARPU product mix and argues the company lacks genuine premium pricing power, and Friedberg (by October 2024) concludes the business has hit a revenue maximization ceiling with little room left to grow customers, frequency, or price. The one area of divergence is around the incoming CEO Brian Niccol: Friedberg expressed cautious optimism in August 2024 that Niccol's track record in cost-cutting and menu simplification could improve profitability, while Sacks and Chamath were skeptical that any new management could overcome the macro and structural forces at work. By October 2024, Friedberg had also shifted to a more clearly bearish stance, and Chamath went further, suggesting Starbucks's equity should be worth roughly $20 billion — implying significant multiple compression from its then-current valuation.

How they got there

ChamathChamath2 mentions since Aug 16, 2024
NegativeE201Oct 25, 2024

Chamath argues Starbucks faces an existential structural headwind from GLP-1 adoption reducing demand for its high-sugar products, that the business should be worth far less (~$20B), and that it is trapped between needing sugar-driven ARPU and a shrinking addressable customer base for those products.

This business is in trouble… But the structural problem is Starbucks should be probably a $20 billion asset.
SacksSacks1 mention since Aug 16, 2024
NegativeE192Aug 16, 2024

Sacks argues macroeconomic inflation has re-rated Starbucks from an affordable treat to a luxury good that cash-strapped consumers are cutting, a structural headwind that a new CEO cannot easily fix.

More and more consumers are just saying that this is a luxury good. I'm looking to cut costs…a luxury cup of coffee just seems like a really easy place to cut. So I think that's a huge part of this, and I don't know how Brian Niccol's33:41
FriedbergFriedberg2 mentions since Aug 16, 2024
NegativeE201Oct 25, 2024

Friedberg argues Starbucks has hit a revenue maximization ceiling — brand, coverage, and price are all tapped out — and that the business has reached natural maturity where multiples will compress, leaving only cost-cutting as a profit lever.

I would argue that Starbucks is a victim of the same maximization effect, that at some point you get all the customers, you get 'em to come in and spend as— and buy as many products from you as they can, and you charge 'em the highest price1:28:37
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