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ETF tracking an index of publicly listed enterprise software and SaaS companies.Yahoo Finance ↗

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4 takes · first discussed Jan 4, 2025 · last Jan 10, 2026

Since their bearish call
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since Jan 4, 2025· stance 159d old
since Jan 4, 2025 · 1yr 5mo

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0%$116.72$74.673 calls near Jan 4, 2025Friedberg on IGV · -13.4% since Jan 10, 2026-12.3%Jan 6, 2025Jun 18, 2026
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The discussion

All four theses — from Gavin Baker, Chamath, and Friedberg (across two years) — are unanimously and highly bearish on enterprise application software and SaaS. The core shared argument is that AI-native competitors and in-house AI tooling will structurally undercut legacy enterprise software by displacing the white-collar workflows these platforms serve, compressing per-seat and licensing pricing by an order of magnitude or more. Baker adds that incumbents lack their own models and compute, making them ill-positioned to compete in an agentic world, while Chamath emphasizes top-down CFO/CEO pressure on IT spend as the catalyst for disruption. Friedberg is the most persistent bear, flagging vertical SaaS per-seat pricing compression in 2025 and then broadening his call in 2026 to the entire $3–4T enterprise SaaS licensing and maintenance complex, predicting severe contraction in incremental revenue for public SaaS companies.

How they got there

ChamathChamath1 mention since Jan 4, 2025
BearishE209Jan 4, 2025

Chamath argues the 'software industrial complex' — legacy enterprise software built on CRUD databases with expensive sales motions — will face severe competitive pressure from AI-native companies that can price an order of magnitude lower, causing fissures in 2025.

the software industrial complex... these are these large bloated enterprise software companies... I think the go-to-market is going to be driven by CEOs and CFOs who start to exert pressure on their CIOs to manage spend. And in that world,1:25:06
FriedbergFriedberg2 mentions since Jan 4, 2025
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BearishE257Jan 10, 2026📌 scored call

Friedberg predicts the $3-4T enterprise SaaS licensing/maintenance/migration complex will shrink aggressively in 2026 as AI agents and automation commoditize maintenance and migration work, severely impacting public SaaS companies' incremental revenue.

I will pick the software industrial complex... I think you're going to see that total economic opportunity shrink and contract aggressively... It's going to impact SaaS companies, public SaaS companies particularly, quite severely in 2026.43:03
GGuests1 mention since Jan 4, 2025
BearishE209Jan 4, 2025📌 scored call

Gavin Baker picks enterprise application software as his worst performing asset of 2025, arguing AI agents will replace the white-collar workers these platforms serve, and that companies without their own models or compute cannot win the agentic era.

enterprise application software, I think, is going to be in a lot of pain... they don't have their own models, they don't own their own compute, and I just don't see them being ultimate winners in the world of agents.1:23:35
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