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Credit Default Swaps (corporate debt protection)

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Financial derivatives that allow investors to hedge or speculate on corporate bond default risk.

1 take · first discussed Apr 5, 2025

Net conviction
Bullish
Who's weighed in
Chamath
Takes
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First discussed
Apr 5, 2025

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The discussion

Among the four All-In hosts, only Chamath has offered a view on buying CDS protection on corporate debt, expressing medium conviction. He frames it as an asymmetric insurance trade rather than a high-probability bet, arguing that tariff-driven revenue pressure on leveraged companies and covenant risk could trigger a wave of corporate defaults in 2025 — a scenario he believes would make CDS the best-performing asset of the year. He notes the trade had already returned roughly 7x at the time of his comments. No other hosts have weighed in, so no cross-host agreement or disagreement can be established from the available material.

How they got there

ChamathChamath1 mention since Apr 5, 2025
BullishE222Apr 5, 2025

Chamath recommends buying CDS protection on corporate debt as an asymmetric insurance trade against a wave of corporate defaults in 2025, citing tariff-driven revenue pressure on leveraged companies and covenant risk, noting the trade has already returned ~7x.

I would be long CDS. So what am I buying? I am buying insurance... this is not something I think will happen... but if it hits, it will be the best performing asset of 2025.1:47:04
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